Chapter: A Man That Marries A Woman And Finds Her Pregnant
A man from the Ansar called Basrah said:
I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet). The Prophet (ﷺ) said: She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her (according to the version of al-Hasan). The version of Ibn AbusSari has: You people, flog her, or said: inflict hard punishment on him. Abu Dawud said: This tradition has been transmitted by Qatadah from Sa'd b. Yazid on the authority of Ibn al-Musayyab in a similar way. This tradition has been narrated by Yahya b. Abi Kathir from Yazid b. Nu'aim from Sa'id b. al-Musayyab, and 'Ata al-Khurasani narrated it from Sa'id b. al-Musayyab ; they all narrated this tradition from the Prophet (ﷺ) omitting the link of the Companion (i.e. a mursal tradition). The version of Yahya b. Abi Kathir has: Basrah b. Aktham married a woman. The agreed version has: He made the child his servant. - Sahih:Abu Dawud:2131 (islam)
[32]And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
[33]Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, - Bible:NT:Hebrews 11:32:33 (bible)
-Who was Jephthah in the Old Testament?
- Is he the one who sacrifice his daughter to win a battle (Judges 11:30)?
- How come he is considered a hero of Israel?
- Do we need to sacrifice virgin today to win a battle?
- What kind of God ask that kind of thing?
- Is this Kind of God worthy of our worship?
[22]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
[23]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. - Bible:NT:Revelation 2:22:23 (bible)
-Why God killed Jezabel children, why are they punished for the supposed sins of their mother?
- Is God supposed to be Pro Life?
[29]Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[30]Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[31]Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[32]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. - Bible:NT:Romans 1:29:32 (bible)
-Do you really need to kill your child or is it ok to just forgive them?
- Who read the Bible, this is the New Testament…?
- They deserve death but can we kill them?
- Does God really think a disobedient child deserves death?
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. - Bible:OT:1 Samuel 15:3 (bible)
-Is there any archeological confirmation, any mass grave?
[12]And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul;
[13]That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. - Bible:OT:2 Chronicles 15:12:13 (bible)
-How come our churches and priest seemed to have forgotten what kind of God we are worshipping?
- Does God Exist?
[16]Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.
[17]In the nine and thirtieth year of Azariah king of Judah began Menahem the son of Gadi to reign over Israel, and reigned ten years in Samaria. - Bible:OT:2 Kings 15:16:17 (bible)
[13]And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
[14]Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. - Bible:OT:2 Samuel 12:13:14 (bible)
-Does God Killed David’s son just to punish his father?
- Is it fair to the son?
[6]And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.
[7]But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves. - Bible:OT:Deuteronomy 3:6:7 (bible torah)
-Are we sure of the omnibenevolence of God?
[18]If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
[19]Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
[20]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
[21]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. - Bible:OT:Deuteronomy 21:18:21 (bible torah)
-Can you really kill your son?
- Is God ok for us to kill our children?
And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. - Bible:OT:Exodus 12:29 (bible torah)
-What kind of God Kill himself Babies?
- Why God didn't send the Devil for this?
[12]That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD'S.
[13]And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem. - Bible:OT:Exodus 13:12:13 (bible torah)
-Do you need to sacrifice your first son?
- What if you didn't redeem your son at birth, do you need to break his neck?
And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. - Bible:OT:Exodus 21:15 (bible torah)
-Is it about the children who strike their parents?
And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. - Bible:OT:Exodus 21:17 (bible torah)
-Is it applicable today?
- Can you kill your son if he curses at you?
- Why can't you do it if God allowed it at some point?
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. - Bible:OT:Exodus 22:18 (bible torah)
-Is it the reason for all the witch burning in medieval time?
- Are Christian aware of this verse?
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. - Bible:OT:Genesis 22:2 (bible torah)
-What kind of God would ask such an evil thing?
- Is it a characteristic of Pagan Gods?
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. - Bible:OT:Hosea 9:14 (bible)
-Is it a kind of prayer our God would answer positively?
- Would you worship such a God?
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. - Bible:OT:Hosea 13:16 (bible)
-Why This God always punishes the innocents?
- Isn't it an Evil God?
[15]Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
[16]Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. - Bible:OT:Isaiah 13:15:16 (bible)
-Does God condone such acts?
- What kind of people do such acts today?
Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle. - Bible:OT:Jeremiah 18:21 (bible)
-Is it a prayer to God?
- Are we in need of a God who answers that kind of prayer?
[30]And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
[31]Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
[32]So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.
[33]And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
[34]And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
[35]And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
[36]And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
[37]And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
[38]And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
[39]And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel, - Bible:OT:Judges 11:30:39 (bible)
-Does God really require that?
- Why didn't show any signs to Jephthah?
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. - Bible:OT:Leviticus 20:9 (bible torah)
-Do you need to kill your child if they curse to you?
[11]And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[12]Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,
[13]And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;
[14]And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:
[15]Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.
[16]And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD:
[17]And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:
[18]And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:
[19]And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
[20]But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
[21]Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
[22]And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. - Bible:OT:Numbers 5:11:22 (bible torah)
-Can I Ask my priest to induce a miscarriage if I fear my wife to be unfaithful?
- Is God ok to abort a pregnancy in the Old Testament?
- Is God Pro Abortion today?
- Can God Change his mind on anything?
- Was it the Pope or our own morality responsible for our Pro-life attitude today?
- Is it against God Will?
- What should happen to a bastard, Hell or Paradise?
[10]And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.
[11]And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.
[12]And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.
[13]And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
[14]And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
[15]And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
[16]Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
[17]Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[18]But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - Bible:OT:Numbers 31:10:18 (bible torah)
-Does God means kill every baby boy?
- Does it means kill very women or mother?
- Does it means kill every girl who had sex?
- How can you know if a woman or a girl had sex, do you need to check their vagina?
- Have you check the translation in Hebrew when God said 'save for yourselves'?
- Why kill girl who had sex with a man, aren’t they supposed to be victims?
- Why God asked to kill young girls because a man had sex with her?
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Bible:OT:Psalm 137:9 (bible)
-Should you be happy to dash a baby on rocks?
- Is it a religion for psychopath?
Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. - Bible:OT:Isaiah 13:16 (bible)
-Why God always kin to kill babies or rape women to punish men?